13 min 49 s

Rev. Diane Kenaston

How we were able to tell the truth about our reality without also predicting gloom and doom;

My own process from being one of the people in denial about the congregation’s reality, to embracing it and moving forward;

How we were able to build the trust necessary for people to listen to the truth of their reality and move forward;

What I did when I realized that the church was not going to have another full-time pastor after me.

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13 min 37 s

Rev. Diane Kenaston

Simultaneously raising and lowering anxiety in the process of change;

A copy of the letter we sent to the congregation laying out our reasons and reality….

The details of our deliberative and thoughtful approach to ….

The specific steps we took to reduce the congregation’s anxiety level to allow a constructive conversation about our future;

How we named the options we had for the future;

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18 min 49 s

Rev. Peter Ilgenfritz & Rev. Todd Weir

How church leaders learned to see the bigger picture – from the balcony rather than just the dance floor;

Equipping lay leaders to be able to lead collaboratively with the next settled pastor…

Tips for the interim minister when following a strong successful settled pastorate (it’s not as easy as it sounds);

How to effect change at the cultural level, not just the program level – with examples;

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18 min 50 s

Rev. Peter Ilgenfritz & Rev. Todd Weir

Some specific examples of nurturing & empowering the staff during the interim time;

Implementing a staff evaluation process during the interim time – some specifics;

How having a staff evaluation process in place is so helpful to the next settled pastor;

Questions to ask to help staff thrive;

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16 min 58 s

Rev. Peter Ilgenfritz & Rev. Todd Weir

It’s about more than boundaries…

Having a pastoral conversation about moving on – framing the conversation as about their own life and ministry;

Who are you now? Who do you need to be? How are you going to be in a way that serves the church, and this next pastor?

Helping them to relate to the congregation in a new way and have a new story;

And about grief – about letting go of the host of emotions that get tangled up in us when we’ve served a beloved community for a long period of time.

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15 min 06 s

Rev. Heidi Johnston

As an Interim Minister, have you ever wondered about the rest of the story? You know – feedback about the impact of your ministry on the congregation after you left? In this episode, settled ELCA pastor, Rev. Heidi Johnston, expresses her gratitude to the Intentional Interim Minister who preceded her, including specifics of how the IM set her up for success.

Particular things IM did to set me up for success –

The IM expressed clear boundaries about the number of hours/week she would work & equipped laity to negotiate the use of pastoral time and energy – focusing and prioritizing;

IM didn’t work beyond her stated limit of working hours when temped to do so – and helped the congregation understand why and adapt;

Two, she led leadership through honest sometimes hard conversations about their current reality – and its implications for calling next pastor;

IM presented new limitations as opportunities, not losses, which led to a new joy in opportunities for more hands-on ministry for lay people.

Three – The transition conversations nudged people beyond all the ways the past was more abundant – celebrate the wonderful things of the past, and also name past hurts and conflicts – helped me not to get blindsided by issues the congregation may be sweeping under the rug.

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